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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The new superintendent did not listen to the communities concerns about anything. He was down right rude and nasty. And the entire board sat there and let him talk to community members in the tone that he did. How dare they. Dr. Superintend M works for the board and the board works for the people. Last night's boe meeting was a disgrace to our community. People from the New York Times were there so read next Sundays Times. Dr. Superintend M should be quoted as telling a group of parents and students that sports was more important than a student leadership class that they currently take, that there is no big difference between honors and AP.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:19 am    Post subject: Re: Modified Program Reply with quote
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Well it's official the modified program as we know it is GONE, it was confirmed by our new superintendent last night. So much for listening to the community's concerns. Vote for a change, this board is sacrificing education for politics. JON SIEGEL for BOARD OF EDUCATION


What will happen to the students in the modified program? Is there anything that can be done?? My son is a senior in Sachem North doing great. I know what it feels to be on both sides of the fence. My daughter is in 7th grade skills programs and my heart is broken for the many parents who have children in the modified program!! If you don't have a child that needs the extra help, you probably won't understand how upsetting this is!! Jon, I am definately voting for you and anyone else who cares about the students who need the extra help!!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Anonymous wrote:
The new superintendent did not listen to the communities concerns about anything. He was down right rude and nasty. And the entire board sat there and let him talk to community members in the tone that he did. How dare they. Dr. New Superintendent works for the board and the board works for the people. Last night's boe meeting was a disgrace to our community. People from the New York Times were there so read next Sundays Times. Dr. New Superintendent should be quoted as telling a group of parents and students that sports was more important than a student leadership class that they currently take, that there is no big difference between honors and AP.


How can there be no difference between honors and AP?
My son is a senior at Sachem North. Last year, he took business law for college credits. This year he is taking Accounting, Marketing, and Sports Marketing
for college credits toward his degree. This has given him the opportunity to see what type of degree he wants to go for when he goes to college in September. He will also have 27.50 credits (only need 22 credits). I am very proud but I hope that future students will not have the opportunity that my son has had!!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I attended the board meeting last night.

I disagree that Dr. Superintend M was rude. He refused to get into a "one on one" personal issue with a speaker. He was correct. She needs to make an appointment with his office and not grieve a private matter in a public forum.

Dr. Superintend M stated, and I belive it is true, that we currently have THREE different programs in the middle school for students not peforming.

He simply pointed out that there are over 200 students district wide that require AIS servcies that are not receiving them - and under "NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND" the district was required to provided these services.

So to "SAVE US MONEY" he has concolidated the three programs (less administration, material, supervisors etc) into one program.

Eligibility might be an issue, where some modified children might be currently be performing at too high a level to qualify.

BUt please present at least an accurate version of last nights events!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I attended the board meeting last night.

I disagree that Dr. New Superintendent was rude. He refused to get into a "one on one" personal issue with a speaker. He was correct. She needs to make an appointment with his office and not grieve a private matter in a public forum.

Dr. New Superintendent stated, and I belive it is true, that we currently have THREE different programs in the middle school for students not peforming.

He simply pointed out that there are over 200 students district wide that require AIS servcies that are not receiving them - and under "NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND" the district was required to provided these services.

So to "SAVE US MONEY" he has concolidated the three programs (less administration, material, supervisors etc) into one program.

Eligibility might be an issue, where some modified children might be currently be performing at too high a level to qualify.

BUt please present at least an accurate version of last nights events!


Debra (this is who I beleive you are) if you want people to provide an accurate version, please at least have the courage to say that your a board member making your statements.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
See, you're so wrong. I am just a community member present at the meeting. I hate to see "non-truths" spread - it doesn't help anyone.

Were you even listening at the meeting?

I was sitting with a few other folks and no one else thought that Dr. Superintend M was out of line either.

Perhaps you're the woman that got up to speak, air her personal grievances and walked out mad.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Anonymous wrote:
I attended the board meeting last night.

I disagree that Dr. New Superintendent was rude. He refused to get into a "one on one" personal issue with a speaker. He was correct. She needs to make an appointment with his office and not grieve a private matter in a public forum.

Dr. New Superintendent stated, and I belive it is true, that we currently have THREE different programs in the middle school for students not peforming.

He simply pointed out that there are over 200 students district wide that require AIS servcies that are not receiving them - and under "NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND" the district was required to provided these services.

So to "SAVE US MONEY" he has concolidated the three programs (less administration, material, supervisors etc) into one program.

Eligibility might be an issue, where some modified children might be currently be performing at too high a level to qualify.

BUt please present at least an accurate version of last nights events!


This must be the member of the budget committee that got up and praised Dr. Superintend M and the boe. The budget committee were probably the only ones happy with the board and the superintendent last night. The majority of the people were disgusted. Dr. Superintend M needs to learn some people skills and the board needs to make sure that he knows that every community member has a right to voice their opinion and be heard and be treated with respect. The modified mom was emotional and upset and rightfully so it involves her child. A parent simply asked a question about the leadership grading and she got a nasty response from the superintendent. And did not really get a clear and concise answer.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Anonymous wrote:
I attended the board meeting last night.

I disagree that Dr. New Superintendent was rude. He refused to get into a "one on one" personal issue with a speaker. He was correct. She needs to make an appointment with his office and not grieve a private matter in a public forum.

Dr. New Superintendent stated, and I belive it is true, that we currently have THREE different programs in the middle school for students not peforming.

He simply pointed out that there are over 200 students district wide that require AIS servcies that are not receiving them - and under "NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND" the district was required to provided these services.

So to "SAVE US MONEY" he has concolidated the three programs (less administration, material, supervisors etc) into one program.

Eligibility might be an issue, where some modified children might be currently be performing at too high a level to qualify.

BUt please present at least an accurate version of last nights events!


Oh my gosh .... last night was the worst Board meeting I have EVER been to! I'm not sure what meting YOU were at. The new Supr WAS TOTALLY disrespectful and rude to parents who spoke. It goes along with his rude comments about Challenge students at the December BOE meeting.

By the way ... at no time did NCLB come out of the Drs mouth. If it were NCLB then we would have had to be in compliance by now.

Also you need to attend more meetings .... you missed the Board meeting where the new Dr said that providing this new AIS system was going to cost us more money than the Modified program!

It is YOU who need to present an accurate depiction of last nights events. In addition maybe you should attend more meetings to try and keep up with Admins spin and the BOEs lack of control. This year residents need a scorecard to keep track!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I disagree. The woman that spoke of the modified program was out of line. She was airing a PERSONAL issue in a public forum. Additionally, she wanted to embark on a debate during what was only a comment period.

I thought the superintendent showed a large amount of patience with her - repeatedly asking her to contact them in the office.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I disagree. The woman that spoke of the modified program was out of line. She was airing a PERSONAL issue in a public forum. Additionally, she wanted to embark on a debate during what was only a comment period.

I thought the superintendent showed a large amount of patience with her - repeatedly asking her to contact them in the office.


She was not airing a PERSONAL issue in public. She was repeating a discussion on the PROGRAM that happened to come out during a personal meeting. At NO TIME did that woman bring up her own childs' situation.

You must not have attended many BOE meetings because there has been many a time where Admin or a Board member WILL have a discussion with someone at the mic during the public speaking portion.

The Super showed Patience?? OMG ... if you call that patience I'd hate to see what you call nasty. In addition, he did not tell her to contact them in the office. He repeatedly stated that he had already spent a lot of time speaking with her. It was almost as if he was saying that she had used up her time with him previously. The new Super was dismissive and rude!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Anonymous wrote:
I disagree. The woman that spoke of the modified program was out of line. She was airing a PERSONAL issue in a public forum. Additionally, she wanted to embark on a debate during what was only a comment period.

I thought the superintendent showed a large amount of patience with her - repeatedly asking her to contact them in the office.


Tell me if that was your child who was being affected by this cut you would be fighting to the death to save this program, its so easy to provide comments when your sitting in the cheap seats. Put yourself in her place before you past judgment. Jon Siegel
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
She was out of place. She did discuss her own child.

If I were in her shoes, and I have had issues to be resolved personally, I conduct my business behind closed doors.

No special exception will ever be made, nor special consideration given if you stand in a public forum beating people over the head with a bat.

I have found both the past administration and, so far this one, to be responsive to my "issues". While I might not always 100% like the outcome - we do have a dialog, come to some conclusion that - although I didn't always get what I had come seeking for, respect the decision that was ultimately made.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
You have ISSUE'S all right!!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I would like to make two points here.

First, residents better take a close look at this budget. It is cutting programs that help kids that need it the most. Some examples include the following:

1- reduction in the modified program. They call it a revised program but they still haven't shown the data to support it.

2- Cutting of two reading teachers at the elementary school level assigned to special ed. This is a terrible mistake. These kids need dedicated help at an early age.

3- Elimination of the off site Alternative High school. Wasn't BOER the same people that sold us on the merits of it a few years back? The studies that I have seen show off site is more effective and neighboring districts have also pushed for this.

4- Elimination of buses for elementary school activities. Those "extra buses" so kids can participate in activities. Is this board totally out of touch? Look at the demographics today! There are many single parents and two provider homes that need this. What happened to no child left behind? Also, I don't believe them when they say this will produce a $500,000 savings. Has anyone seen this documentation?

So, where is your money going. They are asking for 16 million more next year! Well, cuts like these are being made to offset programs that are being restored like activities and sports. But don't kid yourself, the actual increase of 16 million is going mostly to administrative and teacher raises and to "shore up" reserves above mandated levels.

Second point:

I didn't see the incident last night, but lets face it the administration and BOE are generally arrogant towards residents that ask honest questions about issues in the district. My experience is they start off politely but don't answer the question, when you ask them for a real answer they tell you they will get back to you and never do, when you follow up to get the answer they do get arrogant and rude. This has happened to me with the Super, business manager and BOE president.

People wake up!

Tom "C"
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Anonymous wrote:
I would like to make two points here.

First, residents better take a close look at this budget. It is cutting programs that help kids that need it the most. Some examples include the following:

1- reduction in the modified program. They call it a revised program but they still haven't shown the data to support it.

2- Cutting of two reading teachers at the elementary school level assigned to special ed. This is a terrible mistake. These kids need dedicated help at an early age.

3- Elimination of the off site Alternative High school. Wasn't BOER the same people that sold us on the merits of it a few years back? The studies that I have seen show off site is more effective and neighboring districts have also pushed for this.

4- Elimination of buses for elementary school activities. Those "extra buses" so kids can participate in activities. Is this board totally out of touch? Look at the demographics today! There are many single parents and two provider homes that need this. What happened to no child left behind? Also, I don't believe them when they say this will produce a $500,000 savings. Has anyone seen this documentation?

So, where is your money going. They are asking for 16 million more next year! Well, cuts like these are being made to offset programs that are being restored like activities and sports. But don't kid yourself, the actual increase of 16 million is going mostly to administrative and teacher raises and to "shore up" reserves above mandated levels.

Second point:

I didn't see the incident last night, but lets face it the administration and BOE are generally arrogant towards residents that ask honest questions about issues in the district. My experience is they start off politely but don't answer the question, when you ask them for a real answer they tell you they will get back to you and never do, when you follow up to get the answer they do get arrogant and rude. This has happened to me with the Super, business manager and BOE president.

People wake up!

Tom "C"


Tom,
unfortunately your correct in what your saying, this board and administration has no intention of telling this community the truth about any financial matter, and why would they, we the community only vote on the bottom budget number and if passed they can do what ever they want with them money. There is NO control. We need to change this now. Jon Siegel
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