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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:57 pm 
For the past few years the Board budget letters have touted holding the line on taxes - NO TAX INCREASE. Yet Sachem's school taxes go up each year - last year mine went up $195. The previous year they went down $44. The previous year they went down $38. The previous year they were up $290.Over the past nine years they are up $1069 to $4205 and STAR relief is diminishing year by year. Somehow costs and expenditures must be contained, curtailed, or consolidated.

As the energy costs increase we constantly hear that the consumer should be able to absorb these SHORT TERM increases. Yet the oil companies make no such claim for themselves. Costs are passed right along to the consumer. one lI gas station was posting gas for $4.079. Heating oil for a 100 gallon delivery is now costing on average $160-$170.

Yes, schools must make sdjustments for energy increases, but avenues for cutting must also be explored. Teachers' contracts must be up for review BEFORE the budget comes up for vote, and all details must be released for public scrutiny. Only then can a truly informed person make an intelligent vote . Fudging the budget with overtaxation and hidden surpluses is unacceptable.

As for board members in the union's pocket - no one can fight a stacked deck. We need unbiased and impartial members to represent the taxpayers and put the interests of the taxpayers above their own self-serving ones.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:02 pm 
I want to know where you are getting home heating oil for 170 for 100 gallons. My last bill was just over 500. for 139 gallons


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:41 am 
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For the past few years the Board budget letters have touted holding the line on taxes - NO TAX INCREASE. Yet Sachem's school taxes go up each year - last year mine went up $195. The previous year they went down $44. The previous year they went down $38. The previous year they were up $290.Over the past nine years they are up $1069 to $4205 and STAR relief is diminishing year by year. Somehow costs and expenditures must be contained, curtailed, or consolidated.

As the energy costs increase we constantly hear that the consumer should be able to absorb these SHORT TERM increases. Yet the oil companies make no such claim for themselves. Costs are passed right along to the consumer. one lI gas station was posting gas for $4.079. Heating oil for a 100 gallon delivery is now costing on average $160-$170.

Yes, schools must make sdjustments for energy increases, but avenues for cutting must also be explored. Teachers' contracts must be up for review BEFORE the budget comes up for vote, and all details must be released for public scrutiny. Only then can a truly informed person make an intelligent vote . Fudging the budget with overtaxation and hidden surpluses is unacceptable.

As for board members in the union's pocket - no one can fight a stacked deck. We need unbiased and impartial members to represent the taxpayers and put the interests of the taxpayers above their own self-serving ones.
So which BOE membes are i the teacher's pocket. Seriously, I'd like to know so I can make a better informed decision on election day.

Tripi, Duncan, Scavo & Falco


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:45 am 
I don't think you got that right. Do you go to board meetings? Who was looking to restore positions at anybcost?? Not those three.



The Board sees no need for honesty in dealing with voters or taxpayers. Just listen to this tape http://www.sachemunspun.com/10106timo.mp3

This page will show you ten years of budget increases, actual expenses, taxes and fund balance http://www.sachem.edu/board/budget11/pd ... istory.pdf

You need to understand every line on this one page http://www.sachemunspun.com/10-6Auditpg21.pdf

This year the Board is hiding $25 Million of fund balance and hording $40 million of reserves and available funds. They are building fund balance at the expense of taxpayers, employees and programs to banking money because they fear the Tax Cap.

This year the district will spend $259 million and collect $287 million

Currently the District has;
$28 million in reserves (13 million ) and liability accounts ($15 million)
$11 million in un-appropriated fund balance
$25 million of budget surplus
$10 million in capital funds that can be used to restore programs

Next Year’s Tax Increase is 4.5% and they don’t need it;
The 2011-12 Tax increase is $5,422,460
Declared budget fat 1s $7 million
$1.2 million of the budget is capital improvements
And the are firing 90 people

For $7 million fund balance See last page http://www.sachem.edu/board/budget11/pd ... on%203.pdf and http://www.sachem.edu/board/budget11/pd ... Report.pdf

The Sachem Board can only deal in fear and deception they have no trust in the community or a moral compass. At the 4/13 meeting the Blackmailers went over the worst cuts possible so they could put them in the budget news letter. Timo, Like Scavo the year before and Falco the year before that said, These cuts are horrible but ewe don't have to do them.

Go to www.Sachemunspun.com to hear the Board members confirm all the below
Current Budget, $282 Million … Passed Budget $287 Million … Contingent Budget $285 Million
Current Taxes, $145 Million … Passed Budget $151 Million … Contingent Budget $149 Million
Fund Balance, $17 Million … Passed Budget $23 Million … Contingent Budget $23 Million
Fund balance is the money you were overtaxed this year that is used to reduce taxes next year

CAN YOU TRUST THIS BOARD WITH A PASSED BUDGET? Twice in the last two years the Board increased the voter approved budget for $ 6 million of unforeseen circumstances. This year their meetings are full of “emergency repairs”. If the Budget passes expect a $4million increase for unforeseen circumstances.

A PASSED BUDGET IS AN OPEN CHECKBOOK! It permits the Board to increase spending and taxes for unforeseen circumstances. It also increases every future budget’s base by $6 million.

A DEFEATED BUDGET LIMITS SPENDING TO $285 MILLION AND NOT A DIME MORE In the last two years the Board has found excuses to increase spending and taxes beyond what the voters approved to avoid returning over taxation to the voters. Last year they collected $282,111,665 and only spent $265,509,366

The Board picks taxpayer pockets every year to level future taxes and bank money
2006-07 Budget 266,665,361 Expenses 262,000,417 Fund Balance 25,471,388
2007-08 Budget 274,707,921 Expenses 265,060,293 Fund Balance 32,148,964
2008-09 Budget 278,801,607 Expenses 267,926,888 Fund Balance 36,110,757
2009-10 Budget 277,694,940 Expenses 265,509,366 Fund Balance 41,687.472
2010-11 Budget 282,111,665 Expenses 259,700,000 Fund Balance 61,700.000 est. inc Excel BAN
2011-12 Budget 287,834,125 Expenses 270,000,000 Fund Balance 72,700.000 est.. inc Excel BAN

For 2011-12 http://www.sachem.edu/board/budget11/pd ... ndices.pdf
For 2010-11 http://www.sachem.edu/board/budget10/pdf/Appendices.pdf
For 2009-10 http://www.sachem.edu/board/budget09/pd ... 09to10.pdf
For 2008-09 http://www.sachem.edu/board/budget08/pd ... NDICES.pdf
For 2007-08 http://www.sachem.edu/board/budget07/20 ... ndices.pdf
For 2006-07 http://www.sachemunspun.com/documents/06-7Apendix.pdf

Now Listen to the 4 one minute clips and understand why I call the Board Pickpockets and deceivers.
http://www.sachemunspun.com/wcdeb.mp3
http://www.sachemunspun.com/10106timo.mp3
http://www.sachemunspun.com/11fb20m.mp3
http://www.sachemunspun.com/11blies.mp3



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:18 pm 
The students will suffer if the budget is not passed. The contingency budget cuts too deep into their lives. Stop this nonsense already. I have read all of the sites you post, I attend BOE meetings, and the onlybresponsible thing to do FOR THE KIDS is to pass this budget. Youbcan call them all the names you want, the facts are the facts, and numbers are numbers, but the students should not be short changed because people have an ax to grind. Don't make today's students pay for the decisions made by yesterdays adults.

What has a passed or failed budget to do with Students?

Next Year’s Tax Increase is 4.5%...$5,422,460
Declared fund Balance (budget fat) 1s $7 million
$1.2 million of the budget is capital improvements

For $7 million fund balance See last page http://www.sachem.edu/board/budget11/pd ... on%203.pdf and http://www.sachem.edu/board/budget11
/pdf/2011-2012%20Budget%20Status%20Report.pdf


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:59 pm 
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The students will suffer if the budget is not passed. The contingency budget cuts too deep into their lives. Stop this nonsense already. I have read all of the sites you post, I attend BOE meetings, and the onlybresponsible thing to do FOR THE KIDS is to pass this budget. Youbcan call them all the names you want, the facts are the facts, and numbers are numbers, but the students should not be short changed because people have an ax to grind. Don't make today's students pay for the decisions made by yesterdays adults.


Why would kids have to suffer under a contingency budget? The proposed budget is $287.5. The contingency budget is $285. The district said they have padded the budget by $7 million. So, at $285 contingency budget they still have a $5 million surplus built into the budget.

Are you trying to say they would cut just to punish the parents for not voting for the budget by cutting kids programs? If so I would not vote for the incumbents.

Just remember, last year you gave them a passed budget and they spent another $2.5 million. They can increase spending above the allowed amount with a passed budget. They can't with a failed budget. They absolutely will spend more and it won't be for kids. They are out of control. Keep them at $285 and not a program will be cut. If they tell you that they are lying or blackmailing you. Don't allow it. Vote them down and vote them out.

In 2009 the voters passed a $274 Million budget… the BOE increased it to $277 Million
In 2010 the votes passed a $280 Million budget…the BOE increased it to $282 Million
If the 20011-12 Budget passes the BOE will increased it to $291 Million



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:25 am 
To the person that thinks we have to pass the budget for the kids - I agree it stinks that the students will be hurt by this. It is not the first time that we would go on contingency (used to be called Austerity). When you don't have kids in the schools anymore will you be running to vote yes because the kids may not get all their programs? I guess we have to vote yes every year, why have a vote, just let the Board do what ever they want.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:02 am 
ransomechief wrote:
For the past few years the Board budget letters have touted holding the line on taxes - NO TAX INCREASE. Yet Sachem's school taxes go up each year - last year mine went up $195. The previous year they went down $44. The previous year they went down $38. The previous year they were up $290.Over the past nine years they are up $1069 to $4205 and STAR relief is diminishing year by year. Somehow costs and expenditures must be contained, curtailed, or consolidated.

As the energy costs increase we constantly hear that the consumer should be able to absorb these SHORT TERM increases. Yet the oil companies make no such claim for themselves. Costs are passed right along to the consumer. one lI gas station was posting gas for $4.079. Heating oil for a 100 gallon delivery is now costing on average $160-$170.

Yes, schools must make sdjustments for energy increases, but avenues for cutting must also be explored. Teachers' contracts must be up for review BEFORE the budget comes up for vote, and all details must be released for public scrutiny. Only then can a truly informed person make an intelligent vote . Fudging the budget with overtaxation and hidden surpluses is unacceptable.

As for board members in the union's pocket - no one can fight a stacked deck. We need unbiased and impartial members to represent the taxpayers and put the interests of the taxpayers above their own self-serving ones.


There is ONE Reason why your Taxes keep going up-YOUR TEACHER CONTRACTS are Killing you.
Plus I suspect the SACHEM BOE Is socking away money for when those STATE CAPS Become Law. Once a Budget has a Surplus Built into to it- do you think they will ever give it back?
b]TEACHERS’ SALARIES:[/b]
Average Full-Time Worker- DAY LENGTH= 8 Hr
Average Full-Time Teacher- DAY LENGTH=7 Hr
Average Full-Time Worker WORK DAY- Working at job hired for= 7.5 Hr/day
Average Full-Time Teacher WORK DAY (Working with students): 5 periods of 45 minutes= 225 minutes/day (3.75Hr /day) The rest of their day spent as follows: Lunch- 1 period (45 Minutes), 2 Preps(45 minutes each) + 1 Duty Period (Babysitting the cafeteria, hall, playground, busses etc. for 45 minutes)
Average Full-Time Worker WORK YEAR = 260 Days per Year
Average Full-Time Teacher WORK YEAR =185 Days per Year
Average Full-Time Worker YEARLY SALARY(after 6 Years)= [Plug in a career]
Average Full-Time Teacher YEARLY SALARY(after 6 Years)=$60,000

ADDITIONAL BENEFITS:
Average Full-Time Worker VACATION DAYS=10 to 20 Days dependent upon career & length of Service
Average Full-Time Teacher VACATION DAYS=75 DAYS (includes ALL HOLIDAYS)
Average Full-Time Worker PAID SNOW DAYS=NONE
Average Full-Time Teacher PAID SNOW DAYS= As many as the District gives Students off
Average Full-Time Worker SICK DAYS= 7 to 10 per year
Average Full-Time Teacher SICK DAYS= 10 to 15 per year
Average Full-Time Worker PERSONAL DAYS = 3 per Year
Average Full-Time Teacher PERSONAL DAYS= 5 per Year
Average Full-Time Worker BEREAVEMENT DAYS= 3 days for immediate family members
Average Full-Time Teacher BEREAVEMENT DAYS= 5 days for EACH immediate & extended family member
Average Full-Time Worker JOB SECURITY= Can be fired AT WILL By their Employer
Average Full-Time Teacher JOB SECURITY= Receive Tenure after 3 years and CANNOT be fired short of conviction of criminal activity

PLUS:
Average Full-Time Teacher= EXTRA PAY for after School clubs, sports, etc- ALL add to TEACHER PENSION
Average Full-Time Teacher= if work in Summer for a municipality or School District- ALL add to TEACHER PENSION

Average Full-Time Worker In-Service/Review Courses= Paid for by employee & taken on their own time
Average Full-Time Teacher In-Service= Paid for by District & Taken on District Time
Teacher's ABILITY TO increase their SALARY(AND PENSION) by Taking All types of College Credit- even online


IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $35,000 THEN ACTUAL DAILY rate =$189
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $40,000 THEN ACTUAL DAILY rate =$216
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $45,a00 THEN ACTUAL DAILY rate =$243
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $50,000 THEN ACTUAL DAILY rate =$270
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $55,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$297
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $60,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$324
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $65,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$350
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $70,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$378
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $75,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$405
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $80,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$432
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $85,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$459
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $90,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$486
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $95,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$514
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $100,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$541
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $105,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$568
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $110,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$595
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $115,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$622
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $120,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$649
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $125,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$676
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $130,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$703
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $135,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$730
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $140,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$757
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $145,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$784
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $150,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$811
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $155,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$838
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $160,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$865
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $165,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$892
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $170,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$919
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $175,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$946
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $180,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$973
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $185,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$1000
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $1905,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$1027
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $195,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$1070
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $200,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$1081

That's for a 185 DAY WORK YEAR (The average Maximum amount of days a teacher works in almost all School Districts in NEW YORK STATE)

That is NOT even taking into account that a teacher WORKS LESS THAN 4 HOURS a DAY WITH STUDENTS!

AND THE REAL Point is that teachers (effectively) CANNOT BE FIRED!

LET"S ANALYZE THAT SALARY EVEN FURTHER!:
A Teacher TEACHES 5 periods/TEACHING workday x 45 minutes/period x 185 workdays /year =694 TEACHING Hours/year
A Full-time Worker who has 4 WEEKS VACATION/Year WORKS (That is doing what they were hired for): 7.5 WORK Hours/day x 240 WORK days/year= 1800 WORK Hours/year


THEREFORE, a NON-Teacher Worker WORKS 160% MORE in a year than a TEACHER!
THEREFORE, (PLUG in) TEACHER SALARY x 260% = Equivalent FULL-Time Salary PAY (Had the Teacher WORKED the FULL YEAR & FULL DAY!!!)

Example: If a Teacher worked a FULL DAY & FULL YEAR, the EQUIVALENT YEARLY SALARY of the
Teacher: Making $30,000 is the EQUIVALENT OF $78,000
Teacher: Making $40,000 is the EQUIVALENT OF $104,000
Teacher: Making $60,000 is the EQUIVALENT OF $156,000
Teacher: Making $80,000 is the EQUIVALENT OF $208,000
Teacher: Making $100,000 is the EQUIVALENT OF $260,000
Teacher: Making $130,000 is the EQUIVALENT OF $338,000
Teacher: Making $140,000 is the EQUIVALENT OF $338,000
Teacher: Making $150,000 is the EQUIVALENT OF $390,000
Teacher: Making $160,000 is the EQUIVALENT OF $416,000
Teacher: Making $170,000 is the EQUIVALENT OF $442,000
Teacher: Making $180,000 is the EQUIVALENT OF $468,000
Teacher: Making $190,000 is the EQUIVALENT OF $494,000
Teacher: Making $200,000 is the EQUIVALENT OF $520,000


AND if a Teacher worked a FULL DAY & FULL YEAR, the EQUIVALENT DAILY RATE of the
Teacher: Making $30,000 is the EQUIVALENT DAILY RATE OF $422
Teacher: Making $40,000 is the EQUIVALENT DAILY RATE OF $562
Teacher: Making $60,000 is the EQUIVALENT DAILY RATE OF $843
Teacher: Making $80,000 is the EQUIVALENT DAILY RATE OF $1,124
Teacher: Making $100,000 is the EQUIVALENT DAILY RATE OF $1,405
Teacher: Making $130,000 is the EQUIVALENT DAILY RATE OF $1,827
Teacher: Making $140,000 is the EQUIVALENT DAILY RATE OF $1,968
Teacher: Making $150,000 is the EQUIVALENT DAILY RATE OF $2,108
Teacher: Making $160,000 is the EQUIVALENT DAILY RATE OF $2,249
Teacher: Making $170,000 is the EQUIVALENT DAILY RATE OF $2,389
Teacher: Making $180,000 is the EQUIVALENT DAILY RATE OF $2,530
Teacher: Making $190,000 is the EQUIVALENT DAILY RATE OF $2,670
Teacher: Making $200,000 is the EQUIVALENT DAILY RATE OF $2,811

AND THAT DOES not Take into consideration the other benefits that Private Sector jobs DO NOT GET- Not to mention TENURE(ie PERMANENT JOB SECURITY) DO YOU GET THE POINT!!!!

They need to start WORKING a FULL-YEAR for their CURRENT PAY!!!
That alone with a staggered school year for STUDENTS would SAVE the Taxpayers AT LEAST 30% SCHOOL TAXES ( by being able to reduce the current Staffing needs!!!

The EQUIVALENT TEACHER SALARY is what is Killing LI!!!!!!!!!!!


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